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	<title>Comments on: On &#8216;A File Structure for the Complex&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: darkhelmet</title>
		<link>http://www.darkhelmetlive.com/blog/2008/07/19/on-a-file-structure-for-the-complex/comment-page-1#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>darkhelmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He says "It can be extended for all sorts of purposes, and implemented or incorporated in any programming language."

Well, yes, that's entirely true. You'd have to extend it for other purposes because unless you have documents and other text which CAN be organized in a list fashion nicely, it won't work. You can also incorporate it into programming languages as either a data structure, or the premise on which the language is built, such as Lisp, where everything is basically a list or an atom (lists and entries in ELF).

As he also says, "[e]volutionary file structures, and the ELF in particular, are designed
to be changed piecemeal by a human individual." That's the kind of limitation I am talking about. He didn't seem to see past the initial ideas of computers, and with that statement makes it seem as though they would be suited to store data, but not manipulate it or process it. I don't think anybody will deny that when you use a computer to do something, you tell the computer what you want to do (mouse clicks, keyboard, etc) and it does it (prints your document, open a web page). There is no human manipulation of data on the disks directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He says &#8220;It can be extended for all sorts of purposes, and implemented or incorporated in any programming language.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, yes, that&#8217;s entirely true. You&#8217;d have to extend it for other purposes because unless you have documents and other text which CAN be organized in a list fashion nicely, it won&#8217;t work. You can also incorporate it into programming languages as either a data structure, or the premise on which the language is built, such as Lisp, where everything is basically a list or an atom (lists and entries in ELF).</p>
<p>As he also says, &#8221;[e]volutionary file structures, and the ELF in particular, are designed<br />
to be changed piecemeal by a human individual.&#8221; That&#8217;s the kind of limitation I am talking about. He didn&#8217;t seem to see past the initial ideas of computers, and with that statement makes it seem as though they would be suited to store data, but not manipulate it or process it. I don&#8217;t think anybody will deny that when you use a computer to do something, you tell the computer what you want to do (mouse clicks, keyboard, etc) and it does it (prints your document, open a web page). There is no human manipulation of data on the disks directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting start to a critique. There is a passage near the end of Nelson's article in which he contrasts what he's doing with the more limited role of programming languages like Lisp. You may still be right, but in a fuller version you'd want to address this passage directly. Also he's explicit that the files he has in mind should store music, images, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting start to a critique. There is a passage near the end of Nelson&#8217;s article in which he contrasts what he&#8217;s doing with the more limited role of programming languages like Lisp. You may still be right, but in a fuller version you&#8217;d want to address this passage directly. Also he&#8217;s explicit that the files he has in mind should store music, images, etc.</p>
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